This category contains only the following page. I am not aware of any treaty that requires a municipality to get permission from a country to use a similar flag design. Wrong tag. According to an entry on the Flags of the World page it is supposed to be a Nordic Cross. Only one that can beat it is the empire's battle flag. These flags either do not have official status or represent various private entities. Unofficial flag of the KomiRepublic used by activists. Alternative flag of Normandy, nicknamed "St. Olaf's Cross". This was never an official flag used by the German Nation this probably is just a censored version of the War Flag with the Iron cross displaced from the canton, But I think it is interesting that the two are so similar and I want to know more. Thats why I added it Inge 19:14, 31 October 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply], What about the Union Jack, and related flags? Some are oficial and some are not. [28], There are no legal restrictions on the Wirmer flag - unlike the Reichskriegsflagge ("imperial war flag"), which produces a similar effect, and which even in the version without the swastika can be seized by the police for "violation of public order". This Nordic cross German flag has been added on the basis of Original Research, which is forbidden to be used on wikipedia articles. Naval ensign and state flag of Norway (18441905), Flag of Sweden (18151844) representing the union with Norway, Flag of Sweden (18441905) representing the, Proposal for flag of Iceland, designed in 1914 by Magns rarson, Unofficial flag of the Swedish province of. In 1935, the black-white-red horizontal tricolour was scrapped again, and the flag with the off-center swastika and disc was instituted as the only national flag (and was to remain as such until 1945). Webnavigation Jump search Flag bearing the design the Nordic Scandinavian cross.mw parser output .hatnote font style italic .mw parser output div.hatnote padding left 1.6em margin WebNordic flag designs very similar to Denmark's, Sweden's, and Norway's national flags were proposed as Germany's national flags in both 1919 and 1948, after World War I and That's the point Dave. The same as the previous flag, but on a white field, instead of a red one. A Nordic cross flag is a flag bearing the design of the Nordic or Scandinavian cross, a crosssymbol in a rectangular field, with the centre of the cross shifted towards the hoist. ONE DAY? Josef Wirmer's son Anton expressed appalment. It is the notion that history 'did not turn' in Germany in 1848, the liberal national idea was killed by the princes and aristocrats of Austria and Prussia above all. Nordic Cross Ukraine. I doubt the Hohenzollerns were overly concerned about the fact that they weren't vikings upon designing their war ensign. Flag of the PrincipalityofSnakeHill, a micronation in Australia. The Germanic peoples all originated in what is today Sweden, so I fail to see the problem. All structured data from the file namespace is available under the. Now maybe the Wikipedia article could be restructured to look less like a gallery and more like an encylopedic article. There is no evidence that Wirmer ever presented his design to the other conspirators. Loose ends, things unrelated, shifts, nightmare journeys, cities arrived at and left, meetings, desertions, betrayals, all manner of unions, adulteries, triumphs, defeats these are the facts.Alexander Trocchi (19251983). A Nordic wave from crest to crest, a Baltic particle from edge to edge. jnestorius(talk) 22:39, 19 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]. --Himasaram 06:14, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], This supposed "1871-1892" German flag which was posted here is spreading across wikipedia's flags pages. Even if the flag of Wilmington was a Swedish flag defaced with some defamatory statement about Swedes, I see little that any government body could do to force a change. Blue with orange stripe. Here are some more mashups. A subreddit for those who enjoy learning about flags, their place in society past and present, and their design characteristics. Nordic Cross Poland. Nothing in United law, to my knowledge, prevents a citizen from using or even desecrating a flag (including, incidentally, the United States flag - see Flag_burning#The_United_States). I have left it unchanged. I saw it twice in the 1990'ies, once flying nearby a Vendsyssel farm. Wirmer was a resistance fighter against the Nazi Regime and part of the 20 July plot. The CDU, CSU and German Party feared that this would provoke a "disastrous flag dispute". Flag of the Grand Duchy of Oldenburg (1871), Read more about this topic: Nordic Cross Flag, No annual training or muster of soldiery, no celebration with its scarfs and banners, could import into the town a hundredth part of the annual splendor of our October. Nordic cross flags of Northern Europe Nordic flags in Germany were historically used to allude to the nation's Norse heritage and Nordic origins. Josef Wirmer was arrested, sentenced to death, and executed on 8 September 1944. I might be a niche market, but now I can finally pretend to come from a scandinavian socialist utopia ;). In December 1948, the Allensbach Institute for Public Opinion Research polled about 1,000 people in the three western zones about their preferences concerning a national flag. Loose ends, things unrelated, shifts, nightmare journeys, cities arrived at and left, meetings, desertions, betrayals, all manner of unions, adulteries, triumphs, defeats these are the facts.Alexander Trocchi (19251983), The tears I have cried over Germany have dried. 2. According to this report, Josef Wirmer had revised his design once again and added a thin black line between gold and red, which corresponds to the Balkenkreuz ("bar cross") of the German war flags. The flag is discussed in the flags of the world website [1] Scott Hatton, on 6 October 2005 comments in a post on the Lewis flag discussion within the Western Isles community, "Barra and Lewis were generally deemed as authentic, South Uist slightly less so" It should be noted that the flag of Barra is available from Mr Flag [2] and A A Flags [3]. What about Saint Piran's Flag, the flag of Cornwall? Flag proposal for the newly General Government, known only from the description. These details help users narrow down their search and make flag identification easier. Cf. At [12] He made two proposals for this: firstly, a tricolour in this color sequence, and secondly, a red Nordic Cross, outlined in gold, on a black background. Note that the white lines are not visible on the flag itself, yet it is still seen as bearing a Nordic Cross as it represents a boiled Swedish flag. Some of the most insane proposals for the Confederate New evolution of the gradient flag: the Kirby dot flag. Or the Vinland flag? The tricolour of the Weimar Republic received 35 percent, 15 percent favored the "cross flag," 10 percent rejected both proposals, and 40 percent expressed indecision or disinterest. Nordic Cross Slovakia. PSA: This is NOT the flag of the Byzantine Empire. Found this flag at an antique mall. [13] This design also circulated as a Swallowtail as a proposal for a new Reichskriegsflagge ("imperial war flag"). Its gold cross outlined in black on a red background retained the Scandinavian offset. For Christs sake could this sub stop posting fascist flags for one day. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 18:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], I thought the style of this article would fit better on Commons, so I went ahead and copied the marjority of it to commons:Gallery of Nordic Cross flags. [16] The second design is repeatedly wrongly attributed to Ernst Wirmer himself. Francia, Kingdom of Germany, and the Holy Roman Empire (8001806), Teutonic Order State and Prussia (12261935), Hohenzollern-Hechingen and Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen, Other countries in today's Bavarian lands, Anhalt-Bernburg, Anhalt-Dessau and Anhalt-Kthen, Verband Christlicher Pfadfinderinnen und Pfadfinder, commons:List of district flags of Germany, The Right Party for Referendum, Sovereignty and Homeland Protection, Action Front of National Socialists/National Activists, Communist Party of Germany/MarxistsLeninists, Principality of Schwarzburg-Sondershausen, Constitutional Convention at Herrenchiemsee, Liniendienst von Joh. [23][24], The FDP also adopted a party flag derived from the Wirmer flag at its party convention in Bad Ems in 1952. It would be nice to find out more about the meaning and origin of this flag. I am for a quite liberal policy, where a flag should be included even if it is interesting only from a vexillological or design point of view. [5], Standard of Frederik the Crown Prince of Denmark, Standard of the royal house- used by other members of the RoyalFamily. [17], After World War II, the future national flag of the Federal Republic of Germany was discussed at the Constitutional Convention on Herrenchiemsee, which met between August 10 and 25, 1948. A red field, with a white disc with a black swastika at a 45 degree angle. Merchant flag variant with the Iron Cross. [citation needed], Allied Control Council (19451949) and Saar Protectorate. His favored color scheme was created by experimenting with the three basic colors. Its a censored version used in the game Hearts of Iron 4. Reme[], HandCrafted WithandBy noemon-Powered ByphpBB. These flags are highly questionable and were removed from the article page: Inge 18:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply], I have removed the Unofficial "Teutonic-Celtic" flag because it appears to have been designed by a Wikipedian for use in Template:User Teutonic-celtic origin; see Image talk:Nordic-celtic flag.svg. It looks like the Nazi Reichskriegsflagge, but with an iron cross instead of swastika. I've seen the flag in use several places in Vendsyssel and also on sale in Aalborg. The flags of the German overseas colonies were first proposed in 1914, but were never implemented due to the breakout of World War I. This Nordic country is located in Northern Europe almost to the Antarctic region, hence the intense cold temperature and snowfall. Former North German Federal Navy Ensign (186771), Flag of Mikhaylovskoe, Republic of Karelia. Since then, the Wirmer flag has appeared more and more frequently at events of right-wing extremist and right-wing populist groups in Germany, such as the German Defence League,[28][29] Hogesa,[30] pro NRW,[31] and in large numbers at the weekly Pegida demonstrations in Dresden,[22] as a "neo-conservative battle sign". Godeffroy & Sohn, "Einige unbekannte Flaggennderungen 19331945", Active autonomist and secessionist movements, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_German_flags&oldid=1133971017, Articles with German-language sources (de), Short description is different from Wikidata, Wikipedia articles needing clarification from August 2022, Articles with unsourced statements from December 2021, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, The standard depicts the elements of the coat of arms. Also, note that flagproportions may vary between the different flags and sometimes even between different versions of the same flag. For more information about the current national flag, see flag of Germany. The NSDAP eagle also looked to the left - with the justification that the east was the geographical target of the "movement". Common national flag of principalities of, Proposal for the flag for West Germany by Paul Wentzcke, based on, Proposal for the flag for West Germany by. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 19:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply], The problem with these unofficial flags is that they are not used, not regognized, and -- in some instances -- were newly created by some random people. WebNordic flags in Germany were historically used to allude to the nation's Norse heritage and Nordic origins. WebGermany and Greece's flags look better than the actual nordic countries. National flags are after all protected by all countries. Find high-quality stock photos that you won't find anywhere else. I agree totally. . However, a report by Ernst Wirmer, Josef's younger brother, confirms this assumption. WebWikiZero zgr Ansiklopedi - Wikipedia Okumann En Kolay Yolu Surely the flag listed is just the Danish flag because Schleswig-Holstein was once Danish-controlled. I think the German flag would look When Greenland was granted home rule, the present flag with a graphic design unique to Greenland was adopted in June 1985, supported by fourteen votes against eleven who supported a proposed green-and-white Nordic cross. The german tricolor is not a tribute to 1848 but to the Ltzowsche Freikorps which was a unit in the prussian army and which fought in the liberation wars that rid the german territories from french rule after Napoleon's defeat in Russia. A black double-headed eagle with an escutcheon of the coat of arms of Charles V on a yellow field. Royal Standard of the Grand Duchess of Hesse. Like Neubecker, Josef Wirmer designed the flag named after him based on the Nordic cross flags. This list of German flags details flags and standards that have been or are A non-rectangular flag depicting a white cross on a red field, Flag of the Minister of Deutsche Bundespost, Flag of the President of Deutsche Bundespost, Flag of the State Secretary of Deutsche Bundespost, Tricolour of black, red, and yellow (same as West German colours), but bears the coat of arms of East Germany, consisting of a. JoDiggler 26 days ago. I would hava added it, but I didn't find it in Wikipedia articles (and I don't know the exact dimensions and colour codes). This ban was enforced as long as Denmark controlled the three duchies (Holstein and Lauenburg: effectively until 1863, Schleswig effectively until 1864.) Ernst Wirmer, now a member of the Parlamentarischer Rat (Parliamentary Council), persuaded the delegates of the Union parties and the German Party to adopt his brother's second draft on 16 October 1948, and to propose it on 5 November, while the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) preferred the old tricolour of the Weimar Republic which prevailed in the end. Today, the Nordic cross is a feature in some city and district flags or coats of arms. WebNordic flags in Germany were historically used to allude to the nation's Germanic heritage and "Nordic" origins. 28. Hope you don't mind this! Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. On the cross rested an eagle with the party initials facing (heraldically) left. Thread starter Frige; Start date May 27, 2011; May 27, 2011 #1 Frige. Through Horst Mahler, who proclaimed his Reich citizenship movement on 14 December 2003, the flag spread in the Reich citizenship milieu. NordiccrossflagsoutsidetheNordiccountries, Nordic cross flags outside the Nordic countries. The DPS justified the look to the right with the representation of the song "Die Wacht am Rhein" ("The Watch on the Rhine") towards the West. [2] Between 1933 and 1935, it was used as the national flag (Nationalflagge) and merchant flag (Handelsflagge) interchangeably with the black-white-red horizontal tricolour last used (up to 1918) by the German Empire. All independent Nordiccountries have adopted such flags in the modern period, and while the Nordic cross is named for its use in the national flags of the Nordic nations, the term is used universally by vexillologists, in reference not only to the flags of the Nordic countries but to other flags with similar designs. It doesn't add anything, just adds confusion. We have only to set the trees, or let them stand, and Nature will find the colored drapery,flags of all her nations, some of whose private signals hardly the botanist can read,while we walk under the triumphal arches of the elms.Henry David Thoreau (18171862), By an application of the theory of relativity to the taste of readers, to-day in Germany I am called a German man of science, and in England I am represented as a Swiss Jew. I find it very interesting that all scandinavian, Translation of "Nordic Cross Flag" into German. WebThe Saar Protectorate (German: Saarprotektorat; French: Protectorat de Sarre) was a short-lived protectorate (194756) partitioned from Germany after its defeat in World War II; it was administered by the French Fourth Republic. And an article titled Nordic Cross Flag and about flags bearing a Nordic cross could probably do without the Nordic flags without the Nordic cross section. The top of the field is black and the bottom of the field is white. WebThe constellation also appears on the flag for the Reichskolonialbund, the Nazi organisation abolished in 1943 that sought to reclaim German colonies and has been embraced by racist right-wing groups. The same as the previous flag, but the crown in the top of the flag is smaller. Banners that were also used by the national socialists (very rarely) along with the swastika. A smaller black crowned eagle with yellow arm plates, a rod and orb, all on a white field with an Iron Cross in the upper-left corner. The HRE also used a reverse nordic cross flag around the same time the Dannebrog was first flown. They were also used for the army. A stubborn porcupine: heredity & nationhood. Flag of Ladonia, a micronation in southern Sweden. Note: George I was also a prince of Denmark. I use WIKI 2 every day and almost forgot how the original Wikipedia looks like. The flag with the swastika and white disc centered was used throughout (19201945) as the NSDAP flag (Parteiflagge). [1] The sideways cross is also known as the Cross of Saint PhiliptheApostle, who preached not in Scandinavia but in Greece, Phrygia and Syria instead. Found this flag at an antique mall. For example in front of army camps or stuff. When asking for a flag to be identified, please provide context when possible, including: Where the flag was found (without compromising privacy), When the flag was found, or the date of the material containing the flag, Who might own the flag (a general description is fine). It will enhance any encyclopedic page you visit with the magic of the WIKI 2 technology. First appeared within the, A tricolour, made of three equal horizontal bands coloured black (top), white, and red (bottom), Merchant flag variant with the Iron Cross (, A red field, with a white disc with a black. This is what the Union Jack would look like if it were a Nordic Cross flag. It will enhance any encyclopedic page you visit with the magic of the WIKI 2 technology. WebNordic Cross Flags For Germany, Estonia, Scotland, and the Netherlands. Like state flags, most of them are with either a bicolor or tricolor stipes with or without the emblem ("wappen"). The swastika is replaced by the iron cross, first a Prussian then a German military decoration, also derived from the cross patte of the Teutonic knights. 6 years ago. Why is there the F35 in the French air force tech tree ? [16] In the newspaper 'Ostpreuenblatt' issue of 31 October 1987, the Wirmer flag and its history were discussed by Harry S. Schurdel in the series "German National Flags". Around the eagle and crown, words spell the phrase: Royal Standard of the Crown Prince of Prussia. But the more duboius flags should be clearly marked so we don't give them notoriety ourselves. Klauber Flag produces and sells this flag in all sizes on http://www.klauber-flag.dk/flag.asp?cmd=details&flag=1167. Close. Still appearing in street demonstrations. Pennant for the German Bicycle Union (?-1945), Pennant for the German Aeronautic Union (1933-1937). The "Vinlandflag", used by American band TypeONegative, now a potential WhiteSupremacist logo. In his opinion, the Christian cross was the most suitable as a symbol of the new state. Nordic Cross Flags of Members of The Nordic Council.png 1,280 936; 220 KB. Bab. It is speculative that the flag had a similarity in design to the Reichskriegsflagge ("imperial war flag") and was thus also to find acceptance in the Wehrmacht. Die geschichtliche Entwicklung der Farben in Deutschland, Teil V der Serie Deutsche Nationalflaggen in, Constitutional Convention on Herrenchiemsee, Allensbach Institute for Public Opinion Research, Wirmer-Flagge Pegida und das Symbol der Hitler-Attentter, Geschichte Schwarz-Rot-Gold Pegida mat sich das Erbe des 20. They were carrying a buckle with the black-red-golden colors. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Are there any explanations to prove that suggestion wrong? At this time period the Saar was a satellite state of France. Die norwegische Flagge ist eine vertikale Trikolore und zeigt in der Mitte das nationale Emblem. You could also do it yourself at any point in time. Nordic flags in Germany were historically used to allude to the nation's Norse heritage and Nordic origins. Note: Ottfried Neubecker's proposal of 1919 and those of Josef Wirmer in 1944 and of his brother Ernst in 1948 are clearly modeled on the Nordic Cross flags used in all Nordic countries the flags of Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Iceland all having the same horizontal cross, though differing in color. I emediately thought it was strange to have the Swedish flag used like this. We have created a browser extension. They (except for the Teutonic order flag) are called Reichskriegsflagge(n) , which basically means imperial war flag. That is, they had the same monarch, but S-H was not considered part of Denmark proper, but rather a possession of the Danish crown. Above all, it stands for a free and tolerant society. JG 08:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], We should decide on what policy to follow here. A selection of official, in-use Nordic Cross flags in Northern Europe region. Why shouldn't there be a Nordic cross on it? [16] The failure of the assassination attempt and the seizure of power prevented the implementation of the flag. This no longer had the cross offset to the hoist in Scandinavian style, but centered with horizontal arms of equal length. I have also removed the unsubstantiated reference to Gaelic heritage, and since there is no Irish dimension I replaced "British Isles" with "Great Britain". Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. At various times in the past, nordic cross flags have been proposed for Germany, and User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:35, 23 June 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply], What is the story with the flag of Verona in Italy? MetallicYeet 26 days ago. It is misleading for an encyclopedia to lump real and historical flags with these "unofficial" things. PSA: This is NOT the flag of the Byzantine Empire. This page was last edited on 6 January 2023, at 19:48. Click to expand Poland and Slovakia were the best of that lot, imo. [18] The future President of Germany, Theodor Heuss considered the cross flag to be "graphic arts" and a "artificiality". It was even emphasized that the choice of colors should not be equated with a return to the old tricolour of the Weimar Republic. This page was last edited on 16 January 2023, at 11:00, Historicalflagsoftheworld:TheScandinaviancross, "NuvajerdetgrnlandskeflagoverDanmark", "GrandDuchyofOldenburg18151918(LowerSaxony,Germany)", "PegidaunddasSymbolderHitler-Attentter", ScotscommunitiesgoNordicinrisingdemandsfortheirownflags, "IsleofBarra'sflagofficiallyrecognised", Extensivecompilationofofficialandnon-officialNordicCrossflags(at, Descriptionsinantiquityoftheexecutioncross, CroatianHeraldicandVexillologicalAssociation, InternationalFederationofVexillologicalAssociations, NorthAmericanVexillologicalAssociation, SouthernAfricanVexillologicalAssociation, Activeautonomistandsecessionistmovements. The image name in the commons is unchanged, though. Battle flags are tend to be cooler for some reason. In 1845, Denmark responded by outlawing all other flags than the Danish one shown here. The Wirmer Flag (German: Wirmer-Flagge), also known commercially as the flag of German Resistance 20 July or the Stauffenberg flag,[1][2] is a design by Josef Wirmer. "It is now or never" to massively act on climate change, The Middle Corridor to revolutionise global trade , Muscovy is out of the game for han- China, Democrat Control Freaks Want To Ban Gas Stoves. Nordic flag designs very similar to Denmark's, Sweden's, and Norway's Some of the most insane proposals for the Confederate New evolution of the gradient flag: the Kirby dot flag. WebHere's an analogous Nordic Cross flag family tree. The situation is similar to the period of the first three Georges of Great Britain, who were both Kings of Great Britain and Electors (later Kings) of Hanover. Denmark. The text should be changed. . Red swords crossed on top of one another on a field. Those flags werent only used for the navy. In the center of the Iron Cross, the Imperial Eagle with a crown right on top of the eagle is shown. Use of the Danish flag was in turn outlawed by the secessionist government that claimed the three duchies between 18481851. Thus the flag of S-H, while identical to the Danish flag, was the flag of a separate state and deserves its own place. why is there a picture of college in brauns stream? Flag of Saarland which was given by French Government. Saw this pink version of Israel's flag, curious to know what kind of flag is that ? Here are some more mashups. USA flag, Papal flag, and two flags representing the the Martinique officially adopted this new flag yesterday Last week was fun. At the party congress of 1822 April 1953, the CDU adopted a cross flag as the party flag and escutcheon, based on Josef Wirmer's design. It really depends on how you interpret it, and of course what the "designer" wanted it to mean. "[28], Proposed national flag of the Federal Republic of Germany, Usage by right-wing extremist and right-wing populist groups, Harry D. Schurdel: Symbol der Freiheitsidee. In addition, a likewise centered golden eagle facing heraldically to the right spanned the motif. This list of German flags details flags and standards that have been or are currently used by Germany between 1848 and the present. The so-called Scandinavian crosses or Nordic crosses on the flags of the Nordic countriesDenmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Swedenalso represent Christianity. ^ Carol A. Foley. Inge 15:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]. I think the German flag would look better if the yellow surrounded the cross, like on Norway's flag. From Wikimedia Commons, the free media repository,
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