So people were engaging then theyd know they know they all know who Alex Perry and Alyssa Healy and all these players are now because they saw the footage of them they know those names are recognizable and now every woman and man who is a cricket fan in Australia they can name those players that someone said Can you name five women who play cricket. Womens educations and capabilities are not a problem. [00:26:32] No absolutely thats a copout. And it has been outstanding and we are now supporting New Zealand South Australia W.A. Right there. Thats what you want in the best kind of basketball coach. Bridie O'Donnell's recent post did not go down well with many AFL fans. She is from Australia. I was allocated a coach in my state, persisted through that year then won the time-trials in the Oceania and National Championships. That photograph was circulated by a very well-known AFL photographer here Michael Wilson whos received awards for the photo. So you know there are opportunities out there. We now had over 100 women last 18 months benefit from our scholarship program where they apply through a competitive process to get to five or ten thousand dollars to seek out an educational opportunity to advance their sporting career or their administration career whatever it is they do in sport and rec but we also know that systems need to change and thats where board quotas support it. Thats where all of our networking events support it. The Victorian Government acknowledges Aboriginal Traditional Owners of Country throughout Victoria and pays respect to their cultures and Elders past, present and emerging. Peggy is an amazing trailblazer here in Australia and she chaired and there were some very important influential powerful athletes and administrators women and men involved in this inquiry that published a report at the end of 12 months and what they had looked into were some specific data around a number of women girls participating in sport access to facilities that these women and girls have number of women in leadership positions in sport. Now if we come back to Australia and we look at the WB ls a great example we have the fourth season of The Womens Big Bash. Now if we come back to Australia and we look at the WB ls a great example we have the fourth season of The Womens Big Bash. Systems around unconscious bias around myths of maintaining confidentiality so we dont want to have a mentee follow the head coach male coach around or retaining information and privacy that you cant have women in mens spaces because you know sexuality issues or nudity or whatever. We have had women meddling in basketball at the Olympics for five six Olympics and yet and we have some of the best basketball is in the world have come from Australia. So it actually wasnt until I was in my second year of medical school I went straight into medical school out of high school and I started doing a triathlon. And I do find myself thinking that a lot whatever work Im doing I think you know what Ive been in a worse situation than this. So my mediocrity was a big part of shaping my persistence across all those sports and in rowing included I was a role for five years and an. I soon realised the reason for her meandering: the beauty of riding for long, slow hours with no money on her was that she wouldnt be tempted or able to eat. You mentioned a couple of times there Bridie in the last few minutes about the Fitbit the free to air TV that that makes a big difference in terms of exposure for womens sports. When I graduated from medical school my grandmother gave me the medal and necklace, and Ive kept it safe for 20 years. So Im sorry Im getting to the roundabout part of your question but yeah I was a completely ordinary and active kid grew up in a regional part of Queensland with parents whod sort of taken a bit of a tree change and left a city to work in a very hippy sort of school I suppose it was like a Montessori or an unorganized but very creative supported school. Bridie was appointed the inaugural head of the Office for Women and Sport and Recreation by the Victorian Government and in May 2018 she published a life and death a cycling memoir about her experiences as a professional cyclist in the international peloton. Peggy is an amazing trailblazer here in Australia and she chaired and there were some very important influential powerful athletes and administrators women and men involved in this inquiry that published a report at the end of 12 months and what they had looked into were some specific data around a number of women girls participating in sport access to facilities that these women and girls have number of women in leadership positions in sport. [00:02:25] Well its an opportunity to learn about what you doing there at the Office for Women and Sport and Recreation because its the one and only organization of its kind in the in Australia as I understand it. There are frequently motorbikes with cameras following us through the whole three hours and definitely on the footage of the climb at the finale and it was never like on television they didnt even do a 30 minute highlight package 10 years ago and I remember having a conversation with a woman director of a team over in Europe saying why is that. So the other another problem them for example is the AFL. She will win for sure!. Shes an expert shes respected shes hard. Ultimately the hard work, planning, persistence and determination lead her to a truly extraordinary sporting performance when, at the age of 41, she set aUCI Hour Record in January 2016 with a distance of 46.882 kilometres. Our guest this week is Dr. Bridie ODonnell who is head of the Office for Women in Sport and Recreation in Melbourne Australia and she is here to discuss the issues affecting women and girls from her perspective. We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Australians and Traditional Custodians of the lands where we live, learn, and work. Im Chris Stafford. The medal was awarded to my great grandmother who won an Irish bag piping competition as a teenager and she kept it with her every day. One year I was stupid enough to pack it in a suitcase of clothes I couldnt care less about when I was heading off to Italy to join my pro team, and of course the baggage never arrived at Malpensa Airport in Milan. O'Donnell set the record at the the Adelaide Super-Drome, which is a far cry from her family house in Obi Obi Valley, where her family lived off-the-grid. Bridie ODonnell shares three special things. It also saved me when we would arrive at 2.5 star motels with awful pillows that inevitably led to terrible sleep. Were seeing this more in the year in the UK and in parts of Europe with the different networks too. But I did really well and I was ridiculously ambitious and I joined a triathlon squad and then I took a year out of med school like a gap year if you like and I thought to myself yep OK I want to go to the Olympics in Olympic distance triathlon but this was in an era when the Jones Emma Carney Jackie Gallagher Loretta Harrop like the best women triathletes in the world were all in Queensland. We know that not all violence against women is due to environments that people grow up in but it all starts from a lack of respect. [00:25:24] Look at the proof of how thats raised the profile of womens soccer in this country because thats now on free to air TV and you can find that on the networks every week during season some of the coaches say oh sorry to interrupt you but I was just thinking about a lot of the coaches will say high performance coaches will say they still want to see people at games and that Lisa Alexander talks about this with netball and the super nimble coaches will say we want you to come. It was free to air on Channel 10 Channel 10 did an amazing job not only of broadcasting it but as you know the power of social media of retweeting great little clips of some of the really strong athletic performances of women batting and bowling etc. Shes very tall incredible flexibility of this photograph of her kicking so her legs completely apart almost 90 degrees flexible hips incredible flexible flexibility and strength. I can tell you that. [00:16:29] Dont rub it in. So whilst we do have a reputation of being healthy and bronzed and tanned were in fact you know I think we have the third highest rate of childhood obesity in the world behind the US and Mexico. So those kinds of images have far more reach than one could ever imagine. And what has happened is seven white straight men have put their hand up. You fail a lot. First, she worked as a medical practitioner. [00:02:16] I began by asking Bridie how the organisation came about. Now shes a young AFL footballer playing for Carlton who has not only incredible strength and agility but she has this kicking style thats very characteristic for her. And so I would say that the London Paralympics was probably the best broadcast and profiled Paralympics weve seen and as you know so much investment went into the campaign that amazing ADVERTISEMENT Whether you loved it or not it was memorable in reminding us of the extraordinary abilities of all of those athletes that were going to Paralympics. I began by asking Bridie how the organisation came about. According to our Database, She has no children. But it is frustrating when you see the standard of play in the success of play because often the argument is so well medals will will win for funding means as it does in the UK for example with lottery funding they want to see the medals first but it can be a catch 22 as well. But I had incredibly supportive colleagues and certainly the public service is very good at that. You know we see the increase in pay for professional cricketers for example. And when it is provided to them in a really classy package if you like it at the best stadium with the greatest amenity and the best TV coverage and free to air they will watch it. So what we know about women in sport in Australia is it has extraordinary links to the importance of just challenging our rigid gender stereotypes. Another of my pro teammates restricted her carbohydrate intake for the eight weeks leading into a major race, losing 20% of her body weight, and she placed third overall, securing herself a strong result and a bonus from her bike sponsor (bonus is probably too strong a word for it; when women cyclists get a bonus from a bike sponsor, it tends to be $500 or $1000, for men it might be a million Euro for a Tour de France win). Thank you so much. Bridie what what did your main focus in the big to dos because you know youve got a huge huge agenda. And yet the WNBA all is a really as a league that is struggling and has struggled to get investment. But I had incredibly supportive colleagues and certainly the public service is very good at that. And what Im asking them to do is think differently about something and that can be for some of them deeply threatening. [00:38:15] Bridie We could talk for much longer but Im mindful of your time there is there really so much to cover and Yep things keep coming up that Id like to bring up but I going to let you go and get on with your day because I know your day is starting but maybe we could circle back some time and continue this conversation because I think its I would love Aston and yes I could talk about this stuff. Okay. Her argument would be that all those smaller concerns over her long-term health could be dealt with later in life. and theres been so such a lack of diverse thinking that you know these people generally all the same age that probably went to school together and so by by asking them to have a quota and bring women in. The dilemma for me was obvious: my concern for her health, and my medical knowledge about the long-term effects on her body and her mind, let alone her career, were constantly in my thoughts. She would also not need to, given the low intensity of the session. In 2017, she was appointed the inaugural head of the Victorian Government Office for Women in Sport and Recreation, and in 2018 she published Life and Death a cycling memoir about her experiences racing in the womens professional peloton. You are my reputation as a sporting nation but just to give a little bit about Graham Brady is to your sporting history because youve been very involved with sport actively as a triathlete and then as a cyclist. , money, salary, income, and assets. The rigors and sometimes the bullying and abuse that comes with professional sport. These werent really. "A German mother taught the German language, a surgeon parent taught anatomy by cutting up ox's hearts, and we learnt music three times a week from another parent," she said. Talent transfer athletes had basic physiology that was often dramatically different from other riders, and we lacked the innate riding instincts that come from growing up in cycling-mad European countries. [00:29:45] Organisations that deliver Sport and Recreation to Victorians that are funded by government. One of them is a beautiful gold pendant necklace that has a small glass and gold medal on it. Well thats like where its very nicely into my next point. Shes an expert shes respected shes hard. O'Donnell will have "a week or so of non-goal oriented behaviour" before training for the national road cycling competition with the Women's Rush Cycling Team. [00:19:16] Managing their social media accounts and to make it very clear that this is a powerful image that needs to be shown and and it became an accelerated image the world started talking about this. They drop out at all different parts of their lives milestones of their lives for example university or pregnancy or menopause or an aged parts of their lives. [00:37:23] It doesnt all have to look the same way but no one is fully prepared for her job. But as youve seen globally weve been taken over by Russia China the UK and definitely the US. From hippy Sunshine Coast upbringing to world record, cyclist Bridie O'Donnell steps into spotlight, For the latestflood and weather warnings, search onABC Emergency, Keep across all the live scores and results from the Australian Open at Melbourne Park, In cycling it's known as this ultimate test of endurance and mental fortitude. During my first week riding in Italy, after the team presentation and before we embarked on the season of racing up north, one of my teammates insisted she had to lose 5kg, otherwise everything would be very, very bad. By 1 July of this year and with an amazing amount of work and meetings and resistance and some yelling by some cranky aggrieved gentleman who were long term president saying I know women but I just dont know any woman who wants to be on this board and I think to myself I know why Barry day we got to 93 per cent of those funded organisations by 1 July who would achieve 40 percent or more and the other 7 per cent of them which is about 10 organisations were working with and meeting with every month and there may be extraordinary general meetings and theyre bringing women in and what we know about this is that whatever your feelings are about quotas I they work be they force an exploration of your existing board which is the best outcome because for so many people theyve just said we just need seven people. So it actually wasnt until I was in my second year of medical school I went straight into medical school out of high school and I started doing a triathlon. I would make some coffee and then I would eat some sort of cereal with yogurt and berries. Nothing really was landed at that time around how that would look at that. And were seeing this more in the States. The joy of having secured that first pro-contract was quickly dented by some fairly harsh realities, not the least of which was seeing the damage some cyclists were prepared to inflict on their bodies inthe pursuit of success. These are the kinds of conversations he has. ODonnell eventually made the switch back to working full time in medicine, but she never really left the world of sport. Until the next time. Bridie returned to full time work in 2013 as a behavior change physician at Epworth health check in Epworth breast centre with a part time role teaching doctor patient communication at Deakin University Medical School from 2013 to 2016. [00:13:22] Well thats like where its very nicely into my next point. And then when theyre not the fastest anymore they dont know what to do next. But we also need the networks to to buy into it too because at the end of the day everybody benefits if they have the foresight to invest in it at whatever level. There were a lot of team vans that had no seatbelts in the backseats, which terrified me. But I did really well and I was ridiculously ambitious and I joined a triathlon squad and then I took a year out of med school like a gap year if you like and I thought to myself yep OK I want to go to the Olympics in Olympic distance triathlon but this was in an era when the Jones Emma Carney Jackie Gallagher Loretta Harrop like the best women triathletes in the world were all in Queensland. Transcending Sport is hosted by Chris Stafford. Okay. Six years of med school was helpful but actually following around the senior doctor and thinking Okay heres what being a surgeon involves. Systems are the problem. So sports shapes you in all of these ways and you you I guess you have this benchmark and you think you know what I have done harder shit than this. But my goodness it does allow you a context and help you deal with strong personalities and we say that a lot in where Im working now as a sports administrator or working in government. The two women who coached in the first season got and McCown one of whom won the premiership cannot get a job here. And as the saying goes you know you cant be what you cant see that that access is critically important. But O'Donnell said after nearly a year of preparation, when she spent thousands of dollars on a bike and partaking in a strict anti-doping protocol, the record attempt was surprisingly easy. [00:39:37] And if youd like to find out more about Bridies work and the organization you could find a link in the show notes accompanying this episode at WiSP Sports dot com. If you want to learn more about him, check this article after a few days. Nothing really was landed at that time around how that would look at that. And if you say those things about women or you you devalue women and show them no respect. [00:00:00] Hello and thank you for downloading this episode of transcending sport here on WiSP Sports. Although many cyclists used all sorts of methods to lose weightsome dangerous or highly questionable, others under the supervision of a qualified dietician or coachthis was clearly not a new strategy for her. [00:05:17] Just a little over 18 months I want to dig a little bit deeper into what youre working on now because Australia of course seems in many ways to tell us and the rest of the world is one of the leaders when it comes to womens sports in terms of equality and opportunity facilities and so on. Usually former players umpires referees presidents etc. There was also no escaping it as a teammate working so closely with her. And its amazing what it is to be constantly comparing yourselves to world champions because firstly you have to learn to deal disappointment on a regular basis but what it also does is it actually really reframes your way of thinking about well what can what do I need to do to perform. I still miss that swimsuit. We wont be able to convince our state politicians and federal politicians to invest in a womens football tournament. Im sick of people saying thats not our job to do this or were just waiting for a bigger sponsor. She became the first Australian woman to make an attempt on the UCI world our record in 15 years setting a new world record of forty six point eighty eight two kilometres at the Adelaide Superdome in November 2017. Less than 10 per cent of the coaches of all teams at the Commonwealth Games were women and worse than that. 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