The first time I took it out to the range with two boxes of ammo I began to wonder where this little beauty had been all of my life, and why isn't our military still using these things.. Carbine pistol! It is such a pleasure to shoot I have no problems dumping 200 rounds through 'er during a range session. The .357 Magnum, having greater case capacity, has the potential to be more powerful, but the 10mm also tends to use heavier bullets. The 2nd cylinder is for 9-mm. I know we all have our answers to this. Before you quit shooting for the day, shoot at least two cylinders of your defensive ammo. both good weapons.I have a 686 with a 4 barrels.I have had it close to 30 years,and still love it.Even today when I unlimber it at the range with full power a,MMO the range ,someone is bound to come up,and say Full power.357s are a handful, so shooting.38s for target practice is recommended. Carried a Speed Six and model 19 at work, then settled on a 629. Nothing else came close. Out of a 6-inch barrel, the bullet flies at a velocity of 1,600 feet per second, producing a muzzle energy of around 909 foot-pounds of force. Best accuracy in real 357 loadings (much of todays 357 is anemic) is with 140+ grain bullets. My daughter liked it and now she is downright deadly with it. I've never actually seen one!! Ive owned the Taurus and loved it but wasnt old enough to really appreciate it but it was beautiful and worked great. This would place it in the middle of the pack for .30-30 ballistics, at least within 100 yards, at a cost about equal to premium .30-30 ammo. Developed for use by French police and Special Weapons and Tactics units and fielded by the French GIGN, the accuracy and durability of this revolver are legendary. 60. While the 16 Trapper is very handy, consider an 18 barrel which will give you an extra round of magazine capacity and a small ballistic increase. In terms of personal defense firearms: Colt and Smith doesnt stand a chance. If you can find a Security Six in good condition, Buy it. the trapper does not have the hoop lever. ), it looks just like a Colt .357 Magnum Python and it comes in 2inch and 4inch, not 6 as you stated. Additional features include black Hogue grips and an exposed hammer. Powerful. There is a .357 Maximum used for larger game. Effective. 350 Legend, which is a poseur, put another nail in the coffin lid. My friend retired as a Lt. Have one in pristine condition and shoots like a dream. Pistol caliber carbines are practical, economical to feed and just plain fun to shoot. It features a fixed rear sight, brass bead front sight, and Hogue Overmolded rubber grips. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. ALWAYS will be. I keep mine because I know it, use it, and have speed loaders that work. Id be curious to see a similar comparison with 44 Magnum / Special. Of which Id say the Savage 99 is by far my top pick for accuracy in a lever gun. Fixed that by replacing the original with a Hogue monogrip. Some private citizens still use K Frames for self-defense, target shooting, and hunting, but theyre pretty obsolete. So a bullet as small as .3540" would still be in spec. It become at first added in 1906, and was at the start used inside the United States Army. have the s&w 627 with the 2.635 inch looking at getting the 327 trr8 or the r8 in the 5inch i think it is mot sure yet and u should change the taurus to the 608 from the 66ss same size just 8 shots. GP100 .357 Magnum #1702 Details. And thats with standard ammo. Hornady claims that they make 2400 fps from a 24 test barrel, and I was pleasantly surprised that the Trappers 16 barrel (literally one-third shorter) only paid a small 11.25 percent velocity penalty. Next, the .45 Colt barely edging out the .44 Mag for second place and the .44-40 a distant 5th behind . You wont find one off the shelf, but I could take a standard 9mm barrel and find a good lathe operator to deepen the chamber. First is for 357 mag & 38 sp. Manurhin and Korth are the best revolvers in the world by far. The MR73 is the most exacting and high-end production revolver ever made. Yowza. Manurhin and Korth are also completely unobtainable for the vast majority of people. I own the Ruger gp100 6inch..SW 586 4 inch..SW K-comp 19.. I believe that the 2.25 barrel. Another fine revolver that should have been mentioned is the Dan Wesson.357 Magnum. passed on a 60s 94 .30-30 for 150; felt it was too femwee a round at the time (i was stupid as a youngster as well). I've also owned a .30 Cal Carbine and I love it. Re: 357 vs 44 mag vs 44-40 popularity in lever guns . soft . Not good. I have a mid eighties Dan Wesson 357 mag 6 inch barrel ventilated rib (model is 13 V). 160-grain Hornady Leverevolution: 2132 fps, 1615 lb-ft. 170-grain Remington JSP: 1986 fps, 1489 lb-ft. I have two of your choices: S&W model 60 with 2.25 Powerful. I would wholeheartedly agree that perhaps another article addressing specifically SA revolvers might help. I just still don't understand why they are suddenly worth so much money. You do not pay I was there in 1966-67 II Corps. They have a snub nosed (2in) and full sized (6in) revolvers. The parts are all very light weight. Ruger also manufactures .357 Magnum revolvers, including the Blackhawk and the Vaquero. It has been for going one 30 or 40 years. I keep those at home. Generally I never shoot the gun in DA, as a matter personal preference and much better accuracy. You were close with the Mod. i love my Trooper MK3..love my ugly ole glock 31/.357sig too.. The .357 rifle is handy if you already own a 357 handgun. Sorry but the S&W 19/66 is the finest .357, period. .50 AE. It's had its up's and downs but i have a 1970's Blued 5" Colt Python and its in perfect condition and still shoots dead accurate after all this time i wouldn't dream of ever getting rid of it. I have used a model 66 starting in 1985. I have a Henry Big Boy Steel .357 leaning in the corner right now, ready to use if need be. That was the only issue I've ever had. How much would a .S&W 357 mag, 586-6 shots with 8-1/4 barrel cost? Its an 8 AR-type pistol and LOTS of fun until you have to clean it. I have zero complaints about the Windicator. Each of the six rounds you place in a .357 Magnum revolver delivers some of the best performance from a handgun. And both are used for medium to large game. Tested. No problems with the 686! i wondered why he did put the 327 performance center on here 627 comes in performance center also. These happen to be some of our favorites. gear. You can swap cylinders between .357 and 9mm, and recoil is pretty gentle thanks to the design. People may well see I have a gun. In fact, I have grown fond of 3" barrels. Steel is a little heavier, and better controls .357 Magnums recoil. The Magnums cost $1.50 per round, while the SIG costs $1.20 per round. Amazingly smooth action. Velocity is what makes the bullet expand. There are only three major differences between the .270 Win and the 30-06, the bullet diameter each cartridge fires, their neck diameter, and the SAMMI max pressure rating. I love that gun! All in all, its an excellent concealed-carry revolver if you want a lot of firepower in a small package. Small frame revolvers usually weigh between 12 ounces and 2 pounds when empty. The 357 Magnum and Colt Python revolver partnership is legendary in target competition with ragged one-hole results, at 50-yards . I still carry it as needed, I also have a 357 lever rifle to go with it. However, I suspect the window has closed on that idea. The Kimber feels beefier, it is finished better than any gun for the money. The utility of the .357 Magnum round makes it just as pleasing for experienced shooters. The racetrack is made from interconnected slopes. I also have a 6" GP100 which is incredibly accurate on steel out to 200 yards. It is black and I put a optic on it but I really want the nebula color because it's different. Currently own a GP100 6 Stainless with a 9lb hammer and 10lb return spring and I polished all internals and its as smooth as mayonnaise its a 6lb 7oz double action pull. 1500 fps Corbin 200 grain HP and 1000 fps Silvertips. However, I did recently find the Taurus Tracker 692. So Im deciding to use CLP and an air gun in the near future to clean it. But I feel the .357 has more knock down power at close range in the woods with 158 gr. Pentration: 17.8 I did take it in to get cleaned up , but it runs very well . cases were difficult to load with light loads in the early days due to *excessive* volume. The comparisons have all included .357 magnum pistol velocities though. I couldnt put the Rhino down fast enough. I have no complaints against the Taurus revolvers except for the polymer 357, for obvious reasons--those are two words that simply don't belong together. The 2.25-inch and 3-inch models offer synthetic black grips, front ramp sight, and fixed rear sight. Gunbroker.com. When selecting a .357 Magnum revolver, keep in mind frame size and capacity so you can be sure to pick the one thats perfect for you. Great revolvers but most people dont know anything about them. Moreover, you also need to be careful when the ball goes through the tunnel. and 1153 lb-ft, for a 41 percent velocity gain and 98 percent boost in energy. I keep my .30-30 loaded with Federal 125gr. Model 27. The newer Model 627 is a beautiful handgun, but I like my Model 28 best. The 27-2 is very nice. Are you serious a ruger is a work of are. It is hardy and I expect its useful life to outlive mine if cared for but as far as that goes it does need thorough cleaning after a range session especially (again) around the ejector wall, grime can build up there and cause ejection problems (this contributed also to the more lasting problem I mentioned I believe). And you were born knowing everything about all the guns, I take it? chill out seal team six. umm your going to deep with all that. .357 you can imagine. The reason to have a rifle in .357 is to be able to shoot the same ammunition out of both guns. At 500 yards, the various .30-06 loads have about 7-10 (~20%) more bullet drop than comparable 7mm Rem Mag loads. Price puts them out of reach for many people. In slope io game, your ultimate objective is to run as far as possible. It was the first time I ever shot a gun. Theres nothing to stop a hand loader from using slow powder to maximize velocity out of a 9 mm carbine. I too have been a big fan of Taurus. 6.5" barrel, stainless steel, ported to help manage recoil. So I want a lever rifle in a trapper format. Simply put, the 270 Winchester is a necked-down version of the . Which is exactly what I own and will never let go of. That comparison isnt even good enough to be called lame. The Winchester Trapper, with its slightly shorter barrel, gave us the following numbers with .30-30 ammo: With the loads we tested, the extra barrel length of the .357 carbine paid handsome dividends. id like a 99. and a deerslayer. Over priced at best, "suck" not hardly. 66ss , 2 1/2 brl. The 2.25-inch and 3-inch models offer synthetic black grips, front ramp sight, and fixed rear sight. Both shoot very well. I have the Ruger New model Blackhawk convertible in a 357 magnum, 6.50 in barrel. A very special Model 19. There I own the .357 with a 4.2" barrel and its very nice. I couldnt measure their velocity from the revolver, because theyre so smoky and sooty that the flying particles gave false readings from the chronograph. Also own a 4.2 SP101 polished in and out and springs. Detailed specs plus plain language observations show Mr Dumm takes his work seriously. I have the 3" barrel and the DASA model. Chiappa the new 357mag revolver with the 3' is easier to carry than the 4 inch but gives you better control than the 2 inch, so dont knock it till you try it. jhp's. Despite the fact that some people dont like Taurus guns, I still like my Taurus 617Ti. Thanks for the informative charts on the S&W models and Ill have to check out their 8 round revolver that I didnt know existed! The velocity was within about 5 FPS on a 5 shot average. 2. While both rounds work well for self-defense, the 357 Magnum kicks ass in the realm of hunting. $1229.00 . 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